Defining "Paedophilia" II

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RB

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Attention ADMINS:

You've got an self-professed paedophile in the group (probably around 50 to 60 years of age) who not only thinks it is ok to have sex with 13 year old girls, but would probably partake if he wasn't with an *older woman*.

Makes sense why he defends the Roman Catholic Church too...



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StL

WOW !!! Is he either a Catholic, a Muslim, or a Mormon? Just curious if it is one or the other?

If I was a betting person I'd choose one of those three...

["see more" syndrome after ..., I think he said sth "I could be wrong"]

HGL

Catholic. It's me, btw ...

RB

Gotta be one of those 3. they all seek child brides.

HGL

Not Catholics and also to the best of my knowledge not Mormons.

But some Muslims, like those going for 9 year olds ....

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MS

My granddaughter is 13.

I am really shocked to think that some man of my age would put his hands on her 🤮

This has to do with total depravity of the soul, absence of holyness and spirits of lust.

The queen of heaven (Mary is worshpped as queen of heaven by the RC) is the spirit of Jezebel. Lust is one of her characteristics. When one worships her, she comes and destroys. She won't repent (Rev. 2: 20-22). She must be cast out! (1 kings 9:30-33).

I pray God has mercy on those men's souls... 😞

HGL

At what age do you think a man is young enough to lay hands on your granddaughter?

Or at what age do you think she is old enough to have hands laid on her?

NB, in either case, within lawful wedlock ...

RB

Legal age of consent in most western societies is 17-18.

9-13 isn't at an age to make that decision...

HGL

"Legal age of consent in most western societies is 17-18."

Of consent to sex?

No.

Of consent to marriage? Yes, since Lenin - only Italy (perhaps one or two other very radical societies) was before Lenin in that respect.

"9-13 isn't at an age to make that decision..."

9, no.

13, not for a boy.

RB

A 50 year old man having sex with a 9-13 year old will be jailed on pedophilia and be logged into the sex-offender register.

HGL

I am not onto such one.

I have been in jail, but for sth else.

AND laws these days are not the measure of all righteousness, recall sth like Roe vs Wade?

HGL

MS, saw sth about theology on your comment too, here I respond to that:

"The queen of heaven (Mary is worshpped as queen of heaven by the RC) is the spirit of Jezebel."

You have not got that from the Bible.

Now, "queen of heaven" as name assumed by a demon before its worshippers would have been especially hated by God exactly due to His intending to give His Mother this title.

Heaven is also called Heavenly Jerusalem, and in Jerusalem, the King's mother was queen.

"Lust is one of her characteristics. When one worships her, she comes and destroys."

Ishtar is not the Blessed Virgin.

Let's check your Bible references?

[20] But I have against thee a few things: because thou sufferest the woman Jezabel, who calleth herself a prophetess, to teach, and to seduce my servants, to commit fornication, and to eat of things sacrificed to idols. [21] And I gave her a time that she might do penance, and she will not repent of her fornication. [22] Behold, I will cast her into a bed: and they that commit adultery with her shall be in very great tribulation, except they do penance from their deeds.

Hmmm ... a woman pretending to some kind of prophecy - reminds me of someone, didn't you say sth like that?

[30] And Jehu came into Jezrahel. But Jezabel hearing of his coming in, painted her face with stibic stone, and adorned her head, and looked out of a window [31] At Jehu coming in at the gate, and said: Can there be peace for Zambri, that hath killed his master? [32] And Jehu lifted up his face to the window, and said: Who is this? And two or three eunuchs bowed down to him. [33] And he said to them: Throw her down headlong: and they threw her down, and the wall was sprinkled with her blood, and the hoofs of the horses trod upon her.

Nothing to do with the case.

MS

HGL you can write all you want, but the thought of you kissing my granddaughter makes me sick.

Ashtarte=Jezebel=the worship of "Mary queen of heaven".

The Mary from the RC church has nothing to do with Miriam (=Jewish name of Mary), mother of Yeshua. The Mary from the RC church is the Roman pagan godess Venus.

Those statues that were worshipped were re-named with Biblical names so it was ok for Romans to "legally" keep worshipping their false gods. Just like Christmas was replacing the pagan feast Joel.

Should I take you serious?
No. Not anymore.
May God have mercy on you.

Yuk.

HGL

"you can write all you want, but the thought of you kissing my granddaughter makes me sick."

So, I might be into someone else?

RB

A 9 year old boy like RCC clergy?

JL

I don't pray that God will have mercy on baby rapers. I pray that he delivers to them the most wrathful fate He has in His power to deliver and that He harden their hearts so they will never repent and avoid eternal fiery torment.

HGL

And your anti-Marian pseudo-theology is not cutting it.

"A 9 year old boy like RCC clergy?"

Neither boy, neither 9 year old, nor would that be like usual RCC clergy, accuser!

HGL

JL Ok, shows you dislike some people more than a Christian should.

Btw, I am not a baby raper.

RB

The Roman Catholic Church: A Centuries Old History of Awareness of Clerical Child Sexual Abuse (from the First to the 19th Century).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30040587

///Btw, I am not a baby raper.///
Maybe not, but you are a baby raper supporter.

Note

The publication is not on a history paper, but a medical one : US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

These guys are sorely bad at doing history correctly. Their methodology involves the assumption that if Catholic decrees against sex offenders are not followed by large scale convictions, it is because Catholic Church had a large scale looking between the fingers.

However, contrary to RB, they admit that the Catholic Church actually did try to do something about such evils.

HGL

"The Mary from the RC church is the Roman pagan godess Venus."

This false history is not in the Bible.

"Those statues that were worshipped were re-named with Biblical names so it was ok for Romans to "legally" keep worshipping their false gods."

No one worships a statue as just a bit of matter.

If a statue of Zeus was exorcised and then remade with attributes of Jesus, those worshipping would be worshipping Jesus.

"Just like Christmas was replacing the pagan feast Joel." [Dutch spelling of Yule]

Which is centuries later than first mention of Christmas and which also was hardly on Dec 25 either.

About the kind of sense one can expect from a person who basically accuses me of wanting to rape her granddaughter.

RB

Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sex_abuse_cases_in_the_United_States

MS

My granddaughter should marry a man of her own age. When she is at least 18.

Marriage includes sexual intercourse. A woman's body must be grown enough to have children, the fruit of the marriage. Having children at the age of 13 is not good for the woman, more risks at childbirth. Pelvis not grown, higher risks at ruptures, higher risks at high bloodpressure etc.

The brains of a teenager are not fully developed yet. This is the reason why one is not allowed to drink alcohol before 21, because of damage caused in the brains. But the marriage of a child of 13 is ok?

NO. It isn't. Men doing that to such a young girl are predators. Ruining the youth and the best years of her life.

HGL

RB Catholic Church sex abuse cases by country - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sex_abuse_cases_by_country#Poland

RB

The plague of sexual abuse is worse than you think.
Matt Malone, S.J. on America Magazine
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2018/08/21/plague-sexual-abuse-worse-you-think

HGL

MS The errors of MS:

"My granddaughter should marry a man of her own age."

Same day? Month? Year? Decade?

Either way, you are spitting on a lot of your and mine ancestors.

"When she is at least 18."

Leninist error.

"Marriage includes sexual intercourse."

Yes.

"A woman's body must be grown enough to have children, the fruit of the marriage. Having children at the age of 13 is not good for the woman, more risks at childbirth."

Now, I am not saying a first child at 13 is ideal but ....

"Pelvis not grown, higher risks at ruptures, higher risks at high bloodpressure etc."

.... better than waiting to 30 - why? Bc a pelvis not yet having birthed at 30 is rigid.

"The brains of a teenager are not fully developed yet."

The relevant brain development of marriage is the one which ends at 12.

"This is the reason why one is not allowed to drink alcohol before 21, because of damage caused in the brains."

Is that Dutch legislation? Either way, the brain development taking place from 18 to 25 is too late to be the relevant one, since waiting to 25 is not ideal.

"But the marriage of a child of 13 is ok?"

Yes, it is.

"NO. It isn't. Men doing that to such a young girl are predators. Ruining the youth and the best years of her life."

Your ideology is ruining many girls' lives, for instance by school compulsion.

When was that latest school shooting?

PLUS a lot of girls who find chastity up to 18 awkward (lot of boys too) and with modern arrangements become preys to REAL predators, not just your imaginary nightmare.

RB

What kind of pervert proselytizes for sex with 13 year olds and calls itself a Christian?

HGL

Marriage, marriage.

Someone who doesn't let Vladimir Ilitch Lenin define what perversion is.

JL

HGL --- I take no criticism from the likes of you. You folks that presume the Christian must live up to your standard of mercy are to be sadly found mistaken. I would not hesitate to burn you at the stake were you to verbalize such an opinion where I had the power to bring it about. And Christ would have nothing against it. "Test not the Lord your God." You sin so that grace will abound. Your condemnation is deserved.

HGL

RB A girl of 13 is not a baby.

HGL

JL You have insulted your grandparent's grandparents, some of them. In Spain 100 years ago, marriage was legal from ages 14 and 12 (unlike Italy).

MS

In my country marriage before 18 is not legal. At age of 16 only by consent of all parents and before that the consent of the king is nessicary.

You keep on blabbering about Lenin, HGL. I have nothing to do with Lenin. I have to do with a pervert, right here.

A girl of 13 is an ungrown child that should be protected against perverts! My granddaughter still plays with dolls, is having an education, has not even developed real breasts yet! Any pervert looking at her with lust should be deeply ashamed of his depraved mind!

I rebuke that unclean spirit in Jesus Name!

Bad thing you're not in front of me, because I would cast that one out of you by the power of the Holy Spirit! 😡

HGL

MS "In my country marriage before 18 is not legal. At age of 16 only by consent of all parents and before that the consent of the king is nessicary."

Did you check whether this country of yours - de Nederlanden, niet? - had that arrangement before 1917 and Lenin's revolution in Russia?

"You keep on blabbering about Lenin, HGL. I have nothing to do with Lenin."

You live in a country applying rules and adulate same rules which were invented by Lenin.

"I have to do with a pervert, right here."

No.

"A girl of 13 is an ungrown child"

If the development is late.

"that should be protected against perverts! My granddaughter still plays with dolls,"

Up to her/

"is having an education,"

Irrelevant.

"has not even developed real breasts yet!"

OK, perhaps late development, then?

"Any pervert looking at her with lust should be deeply ashamed of his depraved mind!"

I'm sorry, as far as I know I haven't seen her even.

"I rebuke that unclean spirit in Jesus Name!"

Who'll rebuke your hasty judgement?

"Bad thing you're not in front of me, because I would cast that one out of you by the power of the Holy Spirit! 😡"

Who gave you that power?

MS

HGL this is not the mark of the beast, but defiling the temple of a way too young girl!!

I do not reject peadophiles who hate the spirit of lust in them and fight against it. I will pray with them and help them in their struggle.

Those that defend their abnormal thinking and long to give in to, are beyond my sympathy.

Jesus stood up for the children and warned that those who would tempt them better be cast into the sea with a millstone tied to their neck than to fall into the hands of the living God!!

HGL

MS "this is not the mark of the beast, but defiling the temple of a way too young girl!!"

Who knows if your take is not upcoming as part of that mark?

Either way, mark plus defiling of temple show, authorities are not always to be obeyed. And even when obeyed out of prudence, we need not respect a bad law.

"I do not reject peadophiles who hate the spirit of lust in them and fight against it. I will pray with them and help them in their struggle."

Look, "paedophile" is a word without real meaning. It mixes apples and oranges - baby rapers, paederasts (homos) and - heterosexual hebephiles, that last thing being normal.

"Those that defend their abnormal thinking and long to give in to, are beyond my sympathy."

Up to you.

"Jesus stood up for the children and warned that those who would tempt them better be cast into the sea with a millstone tied to their neck than to fall into the hands of the living God!!"

Key words : "children" and "tempt" (I think the actual term was scandalise). A 13 year old girl is NORMALLY not a child any more, and I have NOT tempted your granddaughter.

MS

HGL You just made my case.

Thank you.

III

MG

RB you invoked a curse of God to crush someone? maybe be careful you don't have anything in you eye man?

MS

MG I think it's a good thing to name the sin.

Who knows, those men might repent by being confronted!!

HGL

When you have a sin to confront someone about!

MS

When justifying yourself, repenting is not an option.

How about this one: marriage with a young girl of 13 is forbidden by law (and for a good reason!!). Bible tells us we must keep the laws and answere to authority...

HGL

"Bible tells us we must keep the laws and answere to authority..."

Not all laws, not all authorities, what about mark of the beast?

Or Antiochus defiling the temple?

RB

Hope you aren't defending those who do!