jeudi 29 septembre 2016

Continuing discussion (on EU) with me cut off from group

1) Discussion of Electro-Magnetic Universe · 2) Continuing discussion (on EU) with me cut off from group

Since group is public, I can still see it from my other non-member profile. Today I took a look and decided to answer the points:

Steven Jones
Either way its with out doubt imo ( the stars) symbolic for angels with the revelation 12 seemingly their in 2017, well things could really ramp up. We will just wait n see. But yeah either way symbolically the meaning is clear on the stars.

HGL (from outside group)
Why is "symbolic" without doubt?

Earlier generations of Christians do or did consider angels as moving heavenly bodies.

Cameron James
Hans-Georg Lundahl I love the needle experiment proves the EU hypothesis

HGL (from outside group)
Not really, since it proves if orbits depended on electricity, they would cease very fast.

Matt SIngleton
Just wondering Hans. Physics classifies light as electric. The bible recognized that light permeates the heavens and it was created on day 1separated as day. Do you agree that the day is electric?

HGL (from outside group)
Physics classifies light as electric.

Or electromagnetic. Or a wavemovement in the aether (a k a ether). Depending on which physicist at what epoch and so on.

The bible recognized that light permeates the heavens and it was created on day 1 separated as day.

Created or reaching earth on day one. There was probably light in the heavens before.

Do you agree that the day is electric?

Neither that it is nor that it isn't.

I am pretty sure ether is vibrating when light is shining (at least the visible type).

I think electricity too may have to do with ether. As for electrons, that is one theory.

No one has per se observed an electron, unless God has.

If electricity is electrons, the plasma state would be necessary for it to exists. If light is electricity, the plasma state would be necessary for light to exist, if electricity is electrons.

But if either light is not electricity or electricity is not electrons exclusively, there is no need for plasma just because there is light, even if there is light everywhere.

So, existence of plasma state is not per se observed, it is concluded.

mardi 20 septembre 2016

Discussion of Electro-Magnetic Universe

1) Discussion of Electro-Magnetic Universe · 2) Continuing discussion (on EU) with me cut off from group

I don't think it impossible electromagnetic plasma permeates the universe.

But neither do I think this solves the basic problem with Newton's view.

Here is a discussion where I oppose one who does think so.

Cameron James
Ever wondered why NASA and its sycophants are always puzzled at every new discovery in space, and why its vaunted "experts" are consistently incapable of explaining any phenomenon without recourse to mathematical gymnastics and imaginary constructions pulled from the nearest hat? Why do they later come out and say that this is normal even though it goes against all their assumptions?

It's quite simple really: because standard theories are as wrong as it's possible to be, ignoring the presence of electromagnetic forces in favour of gravity, a force 10 to the power of 39 (that's 10 with 39 trailing zeroes) weaker than EM. Unfortunately, it is becoming increasingly clear that the universe and everything in it is motivated by electricity, and that gravity is simply the observed result of charge differential. Strangely we know (or THINK we know) that subatomic particles such as neutrons, protons and electrons are controlled by electrical forces, yet for some reason this is ignored when we think on bigger scales. Not for much longer, I hope.

Jonathan D'Souza
Virtually everything is run according to Public Relations Ideology - which means spinning things and lying in your favor, no matter how daft - It's one of the things they ingrain into you in College Business Writing Courses. - Never make your company seem weak or mistaken - word things such that they are always seen as a benefit to your audience, even when you are depriving them of something.

Basically 'lying' and 'subterfuge' is an institutionalized practice and a job benefit. Politics, Science, Education, finance, consumer goods, even the Catholic Church now sadly adopts this practice.

Hell isn't only filled with lawyers. It's also filled with Public Relations Agents. Down there they're still employed into perpetuity.

Cameron James
Ha! So true!

A.j. Kukoleck
earlier today i was thinking about what if evolution or the standard model was a traded company. noboday would buy it. like the bad news with climate gate emails. al gores carbon credit company took a nose dive. if these scientists were as zealous for the truth as they lead us to believe evoluiton and the standard model wouldnt get talked about.

Matt SIngleton
The only thing that I can see missing from the New Years cosmology model is the mathematics. We have seen the math work with geo under Mach's principle.

And an electric universe increases the universal forces exponentially and the process running more smoothly. But I still need the math. If that is done we can look into peer review.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
// ignoring the presence of electromagnetic forces in favour of gravity, a force 10 to the power of 39 (that's 10 with 39 trailing zeroes) weaker than EM. //

Why would weaker or stronger change anything about the problem how centripetal (or attractive) force manages to balance out centrifugal (or inertial as per previous movement) one?

Cameron James
We are looking for the truth

Hans-Georg Lundahl

But truth implies using some logic.

If gravitation and electromagnetic force were competing as roles for a GLUE, perhaps you would have a point.

But in orbits, the question is how attractive force and the momentum for going on forward are BALANCED into an orbit - OR, if the explanation is ENTIRELY different.

I think orbits are there because angels in obedience to God are providing them.

Cameron James
If your hypothesis requires that you imagine that the universe is filled 96% with invisible dark matter and dark energy you have a problem

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Oh, that is another question!

I am not main stream. Just not much into electromagnetic universe.

So, back to my previous question : WHY would an electromagnetic universe explain, not glueing but ORBITTING better than gravitation?

Cameron James
Because it is 10-39 power stronger and doesn't need imaginary dark matter. It assumes a universe filled with electrical plasma. This has been verified but secular science can't explain how it got there so they deny it.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
"Because it is 10-39 power stronger and doesn't need imaginary dark matter."

Well, the "stronger" part misses, even once again, the fact we are, with orbits, not talking of a glue but of a balance.

If attraction is TOO strong, it means orbitting body will be sucked in.

Cameron James
With gravity we should fly away. With a universe filled with light we are connected and stay there he same distance

Hans-Georg Lundahl
More like "with gravity we would fly away, with electricity we would get sucked in".

Either way, the problem is the balance for an orbit resulting, as purported, from two forces.

Unlike a glueing together, which could result from just one attractive one.

Cameron James
With the EU it is like being on a string. Gravity by masses attraction is imaginary and way to weak to hold anything in. But we've been told it is a fact over and over. I question everything except the Bible and I hope to influence others to do this too.

[EU = electromagnetic universe, I presume?]
Hans-Georg Lundahl
"With the EU it is like being on a string"


A string is not a dynamic inward force. It is statically holding a stone in, not pulling it closer to centre.

That is where a string differs from both electromagnetism and gravitation.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
As to Bible, it strongly suggests EITHER that stars are alive OR that angels are directing them.

Job 38: [7] When the morning stars praised me together, and all the sons of God made a joyful melody?

Judges 5: [20] War from heaven was made against them, the stars remaining in their order and courses fought against Sisara.

Cameron James
Put two huge balls on a rope and put them a fraction of an inch apart and test how masses attract. Now run electricity through one and see how the EU works.

A.j. Kukoleck
I can see magnetic forces being more attractive than gravity in close proximity

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Very nice - if the problem at hand were getting two bodies to stay close.

However, if you want to bodies to orbit ... that is a fundamentally different issue.

The experiment of Don Pettit only indirectly adressed gravity, but directly adressed electromagnetism.

The charged knitting needle is obviously attracting through electric force, watch how many times water droplets orbit around it:

[ISS] Don Petit, Science Off The Sphere - Water Droplets Orbiting Charged Knitting Needle

Need I say that, this video being produced by NASA, without their suspecting it could help debunking purely mechanistic (both electromagnetic and gravitational) models for orbits, I am somewhat less into considering their every word and gesture as automatically plotting.

I presume I have not disproven too much? Like orbits of satellites, could be kept in place by adding some propulsion the way wanted whenever satellite starts moving in (down) or out (up) too much.

Has any artificial satellite ever done totally without this help?

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Vigil of St Matthew

vendredi 9 septembre 2016

Noster Franzeis - üne Lange konstreute per mei!

1) HGL's F.B. writings : On Constructed Languages · 2) Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : ... on Con-Langs · 3) HGL's F.B. writings : Noster Franzeis - üne Lange konstreute per mei! · 4) Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Are constructed languages (Na'vi, etc) really languages? Why or why not? (quora)

July 13
I actually found my conlang again, now I have decided to call it "Noster Franzeis".

It is a version of Old or Middle French with High German, in some items specifically Viennese phonology.

A dialogue and an observation on writers are here given in Standard French and in Noster Franzeis:

Dialogue en français et en "Noster Franzeis"

- C'est bien ici. L'eau coule à côté.
- Au moins pendant la nuit. Le jour il y a trop de monde.
- Tu vois l'étoile?
- Oui, elle est belle.
- Et l'autre étoile?
- Non, elle ne brille pas très clairement.
- Bientôt la Lune vient, elle est déjà levée, mais elle est derrière la tour.

- Ze'st bean izie. La Ehau kuhle a Kostee.
- Al meins pendint la Neut. Lo Jurn, el i hat trupp de Munde.
- Tü weist la Steile?
- Ohil, ele'st belle.
- Et l'auter Steile?
- Noon, ele ne brilje mie mult klärement.
- Beantost la Lüne weant, ele se'st deja lewehe, meis ele's de reare la Tuhr.


Un écrivain doit être avide d'apprendre des faits et capable à les formuler compréhensiblement et de manière saisissante.

Ün Schriwähns deit ester awide de apprender dels Fähts et kapabel a los formüler komprehensiblement et de Maneare säsischante.

Note, this is not standard French with a German accent.

In that language, l'eau coule à côté is pronounced "Loh kuhl a kotee", not "La Ehau kuhle a Kostee".

Oh, this is the language "Ewesch" is from?

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Eweske + sk > sch, as per German phonology.

Later same day:
How do you say "Hi! How may I help you?"
Bon Jurn! Komint peus wu s-ähder?
(Also: bon Matin, bon Seier etc.)


Étienne Tempier, évêque de Paris.
Stean Tempear, Ewesch de Paris. (Nominative Steans Tempears, Ewesch identical)


Words related to reading and writing.

Book El Liwer, lo Liwer.
Page La Padsche, la Padsche.
Letter (as in a letter of the alphabet) El Letter, lo Letter ("la Letter" is considered pedantic)
Sentence La Klause, la Klause.
Paragraph El Satz, lo Satz (loan from German)
Education La Edükazioon.
Scribe / Writer El Schriwähns, lo Schriwähn.
Pen (or other writing implement) La Penne.
Ink El / lo Enker.

Literate Letree (Masc), Letrehe (Fem).


I write Jo schriewe (conjugate as jo ähme)
I read Jo ledsch (as jo fienisch)

Week Days
Lee Jurn de la Semähne

Dominsch, Lündie, Mardie, Merkerdie, Zehndie, Juhndie, Sabedie.
(Dimanche, Lundi, Mardi, Mercredi, Cène-di !, Jeûne-di !, Sabat-di)

Pagan influences reduced but not eliminated.

Thursday is (Last) Supper day, Friday is (as in Icelandic) Fasting Day.

What is today, tomorrow, and yesterday in your conlang?

(I gave today, yesterday and tomorrow)

Heu, Hear, De mähn.

False friend alert: heut = 8.


Which standard Latin letters (a, b, c… x, y, z) DON'T you use?

  • 1) As the orthography is German, instead of V, you have W.
  • 2) As the basis is Romance (mostly old French), no historic reasons to use V for F
  • 3) As it is Romance in itself, no need to use V for Romance V sounds either (la Part aktiewe ...)


"I go to Rome by Horse"
Jo ehkite a Rome.


Conjugation time:

Jo ähme
tü ähmest
el ähme, ele ähme
nu s-amontz (old var. amohm)
wu s-ametz
els ähmint, eles ähmint.

Jo fienisch
tü fienist (st=scht even final/medial)
el fienisch, ele fienisch
nu fienischontz
wu fienischetz
els fienischent, eles fienischent.

Some irregulars:

Jo seu
tü est
el / ele est
nu somps
wu s-ess
els / eles sunt

Jo hai
tü hast
el / ele hat
nu habontz
wu habetz
els / eles haunt

Jo weis
tü weist
el / ele weit
nu weiontz
wu weietz
els / eles weient

Jo feis
tü feist
el / ele feit
nu feitzontz
wu feitzetz
els / eles faunt.

August 9 and 14
Ze’st ün Jurn gloriöhs por zels ki weient la Seintetee de la Düalitee.

Heu nu hawohm döh-zent-wähnt-dör Membres, et dewohm zelebern kon üne Tradükzion en westres Langes konstreutes et kon petietes Anekdotes sür eles !

La ma petiete Anekdote est, ke jo ne truhwe mie lo Keiher nel kel schriwie las Formes de « wester » et de « petiet » !

Correct infinitives in -ern to -er, or call it another dialect!

"Has anyone created a Romlang that's so mutated it barely looks like a Romance langauge at all?"

My Noster Franzeis is like the word Märzi in Rhine Frenkish - French sounding like German.

Sept 9
La Spaatz.
La Fronteare finale.
Zels-zie sunt li Weiatzsches de la Neff spaziel Enterpreis.
Sa Mission kontinuehe: - explorern strantsches, nuwels Mundz; kerkern nuwele Wiehe et nuweles Ziwilisazions; allern awek
Kuratsch uh Nül allat awint!
Pretendern ke'l Üniwers est Spaatz infiniehe diwisehe en Galaxiehes ki sunt Miljons de Annehes Lümeare trawersch.
Pretendern ke ün Wessel militär peut essern senz Kapelähn.

The final two sentences added as my own comment. And I finally decided, the phonology is more Picard than IdF in k/ch. Or rather, since having zels-zie and not "zschels-zschie", neither Picard nor French.