- HGL, status on wall
- Prince Dies! Churches Burn! Get the Message?
- Craig Crawford
- This man proclaims himself to be the "Third Eagle of the Apocalypse" and "the co-prophet of God"? He is delusional. Why must the burning of churches be either terrorism or a sign from God? It can certainly be both. Prince did not die on April 21, 2016 — his death was faked. This man is no prophet. He is mad.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- You like flinging about reproaches about madness, don't you?
Sounds more merciful than heretic, does it?
He said "co-prophet of the end times".
I never so far read "co-prophet of God", but since you are reading disabled (as seen in how you misinterpreted the quote from St Augustine, De Trinitate, book VIII), I am so attentive it could be a misreading on your part that I refuse to look, unless you have a precise link to a precise page.
I thought he was wrong about Putin being the Beast and King of the North, because I thought if VPUTIN in atbash ciphered ASCII Code gives 444, he must be King of the South.
Now, SALMAN adds up to 444 and he is in a country which can very well be that of "King of the South" (so William Tapley would have been wrong on Obama being King of the South, Obama is a servant of him, bowed down to his father), and more than one item give 666 for Putin.
What was the name of that Prince of Kiev, who converted?
Volodimir or Wlodzimierz, right?
Putin is spelling it in a way that transscribes to Vladimir or Wladimir, instead.
Now, no atbash cipher involved, WLADIMIR is 601 and genitive adds A = 65.
En lengua romance en Antimodernism y de mis caminaciones : Kogo?
Or, if you prefer Vladimir, VLADIMIRB is also 666. Why B?
Well, as in "the second".
Vladimir II of post-Czarist Russia. Vladimir II of his own family. Vladimir II of opponents to Turkish Muslims - after Lenin, his father, and Vlad Tepec.
Also, V POUTINE adds up to 666.
So, he may well have been right that Putin is King of the North and Antichrist, the Beast. Or will be, before it's over.
And, as to Prince not dying april 21, where do you get that from?
And even if true, would not the open sign in the news headlines be the same?
Oh, wait, just before you go hysteric about me being "delusional" for counting the number values to 666, here is the arithmetic:
W 87 80 7
L 76 150 13
A 65 210 18
D 68 270 26
I 73 340 29
M 77 410 36
I 73 480 39
R 82 560 41
A 65 620 46 = 666.
Number values of each upper case letter just right of it, then decades and units to right of that, adding up successively, so as to avoid counting mistakes.
And before you go hysteric about where I get these number values from, they are ASCII Code. If you are using a computer, you are using them.
En lengua romance en Antimodernism y de mis caminaciones : Qué es el Codiz ASCII, y porqué importa?
And B, 64+2=66. And C, 64+2+1=67. And so on.
- Craig Crawford
- Debates with you are always too long and involved. I am not interested in long-winded scholastic debates. Your ASCII calculations are NOT the methodology the holy Fathers teach for calculating the name of the number of the beast. There is a long and well established tradition as to how the number of the beast is to be calculated from St. John the Theologian to St. Irenaeus and St. Hippolytus, on down, etc.
The proper methodology for calculating the number of the name of the beast is Greek isopsephy, and it was in existence and popular at the time the Apocalypse was written down.
It has nothing to do with ASCII, which is a recent invention.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "Debates with you are always too long and involved."
You like to pretend, because you give a short stupidity which takes a long answer.
"Your ASCII calculations are NOT the methodology the holy Fathers teach for calculating the name of the number of the beast."
It's the methodology, just one which uses the number values of ASCII Code instead of those of Greek numericalised alphabet.
"There is a long and well established tradition as to how the number of the beast is to be calculated from St. John the Theologian to St. Irenaeus and St. Hippolytus, on down, etc."
Yes, it says that the syllables of the name must through numeric values add up to the number of Apocalypse 13:18.
"The proper methodology for calculating the number of the name of the beast is Greek isopsephy, and it was in existence and popular at the time the Apocalypse was written down."
I am using the methodology, but not considering Greek alphabet is the one and only way to use it.
Why? For one thing, it is a parallel to Hebrew number values.
So, if one name gives the value in Hebrew and another in Greek alphabets, which one is it?
If MOST fathers actually used Greek, nevertheless it seems this was because of their habit, they were excluding Latin because Roman numerals don't have a number value for each letter (something which ASCII Code has changed).
For another thing, either Hebrew or Greek could be abused by bad parents to "fulfil" the prophecy.
The parents of Cyrus could not do so, when naming him, because they did not know about Isaiah.
St Joseph did not name the Son of God directly Immanuel.
Even if Jesus means all that Immanuel means.
So, why should parents be able to fulfil this prophecy by using Greek or Hebrew gematria (also known as isopsephy, which is the word you prefer)?
"It has nothing to do with ASCII, which is a recent invention."
Which God knew about when revealing his Revelation to St John.
And which also mean that it was invented AFTER the Bergoglio family retained the form Bergoglio rather than Borgoglio after having their son Jorge Mario, and AFTER one Vladimir Putin naming his son Vladimir, so be becomes Vladimir Vladimirovich or Vladimir II in his family.
And as all ASCII Code values directly tying Vladimir Putin to 666 are NON-Cyrillic, as far as I looked, it is certain the naming cannot have intended to fulfil the prophecy, which is why it can be a real fulfilment of it.
I would also suggest "the beast" in question is the cog or cogwheel. It looks like a beast of burden or of work to a man from ancient society. And its ASCII value is right between the cat (665) and the dog (667), two real beasts.
Both Bergoglio and Putin can be tied to the cog, Bergoglio more directly, he is Rotarian.
For Putin, well, the correct Scanian way of pronouncing KGB would be CAW GAY BEY, but in hasty speech it would sound like COG GAY BEY.
A Bey (anti-Christian administrator) who is cog gay, that is happier with cogs in cogwheels than with free people, a good description of KGB, I'd say.
What was the ASCII Code for COGGAYBEY, again?
Why don't you try it!