samedi 23 novembre 2013

What about 68 ... 1568, for instance?

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A Holy Catholic Pope, St. Pius V, tells the truth about homosexual clergy:

" That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal. Quite opportunely the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] issued this decree:

"Let any member of the clergy caught in that vice against nature, given that the wrath of God falls over the sons of perfidy, be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery" (chap. 4, X, V, 31).

So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law. Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss."

-Constitutionn Horrendum illud scelus, August 30, 1568, in Bullarium Romanum,Rome: Typographia Reverendae Camerae Apostolicae, Mainardi, 1738, chap. 3, p. 33

— "avec" Philip Howard [who probably shared the quote first].
Let any member of the clergy et c be removed from clerical orders or forced to do penance in a monastery. Not everyone caught in it, but members of clergy.

And notice "caught in it" - not reputed due to being intellectual among working class people or Latin among Latin hating Orthodox (believe me, attitudes of Orthodox to Catholics are worse in France than what I have seen from states) or Neohimerites thinking YEC's are homosexual because Seraphim Rose had been so. (My knowledge of Orthodox in the States obviously comes from internet.)

Or for that matter French thinking JRRT and CSL are for girls and girlyboys ...

Or Jews thinking you are homosexual because you pray the Rosary (which I did earlier) or because you are not married yet.

The key word "clergy" in the constitution Horrendum illud scelus is of course relevant, because a layman who has never vowed celibacy is free to make a Josh Weed type marriage or a Club Unicorn type marriage. If you know what I mean.

And "caught in it" does mean caught in the act of sodomy or of preparing to or retreating from such, not "caught himself thinking of other boys" as was the case with Josh Weed as a teenager.

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