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- by Crawford, if you care:
https://www.facebook.com/cyprian.crawford/posts/10218716786925819
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "Harry Potter is all about ISIS, as are the novels of Tolkien and Lewis, who are both associated with Oxford, where the river Thames is called the Isis."
As to Tolkien and Lewis, is that kind of guilt by suspicion and by association the new Orthodoxy down among Serbians?
Did they recently convert a lot of Jews down in Ohrid and forget to teach them Christian morality is not Talmudic sucipicion?
As to Eagle, it might be astronauts were thinking of a Bible prophecy:
The pride of thy heart hath lifted thee up, who dwellest in the clefts of the rocks, and settest up thy throne on high: who sayest in thy heart: Who shall bring me down to the ground? [4] Though thou be exalted as an eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars: thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.
Abdias 1:3-4.
The last part could be seen by astronauts as a promise of safe return.
"Niel-sen, obviously alluding to Neil Armstrong."
Except Niels-sen (s simplified in one word) refers to "son of Nicolas".
- Craig Crawford
- Hans-Georg Lundahl: before we can delve into the hidden things embedded in the writings of Tolkien and Lewis, it is necessary to recognize the basics.
Gandalf the Grey is called "the great Wizard" in the novel. Gandalf performs spells like wizards are wont to do.
Sacred Scripture, the Holy Apostles, and all the saints condemn every form of wizardry and witchcraft. There is no such thing as a "good witch" or a "good wizard". All forms of magic, witchcraft, wizardry, spells, incantations and enchantments are evil and condemned by the Church.
Letter on the Origin and Time of the Antichrist
Adso of Montier-En-Der (written between 949/954)
"The Antichrist will have magicians, enchanters, diviners, and wizards who at the devil's bidding will rear him and instruct him in every evil, error, and wicked art."
Gandalf the wizard is presented as a heroic figure in the novels, someone that young children reading the novel would look up to. Likewise for Frodo, Gandalf's companion and friend. The Narnia series of C.S. Lewis encourages a belief in magic and teaches children to cast spells and charms.
On a most basic level, the occult novels of Tolkien and Lewis serve to teach children to admire wizards and cast spells. The purpose of these novels is to attack fundamental teachings of Christianity, which is for Christians to avoid such things.
Only when one acknowledges such basic and fundamental concepts will one begin to receive the grace and discernment needed to recognize the more cryptic and hidden messages woven in these novels, published and promoted by the secret society.
Here is promotion of spells by Lewis:
Prince Caspian:
"Lucy could hardly tear herself away from that first page, but when she turned over, the next was just as interesting. "But I must get on," she told herself. And on she went for about thirty pages which, if she could have remembered them, would have taught her how to find buried treasure, how to remember things forgotten, how to forget things you wanted to forget, how to tell whether anyone was speaking the truth, how to call up (or prevent) wind, fog, snow, sleet or rain, how to produce enchanted sleeps and how to give a man an ass's head (as they did to poor Bottom). And the longer she read the more wonderful and more real the pictures became.
Then she came to a page which was such a blaze of pictures that one hardly noticed the writing. Hardly - but she did notice the first words. They were, An infallible spell to make beautiful her that uttereth it beyond the lot of mortals. Lucy peered at the pictures with her face close to the page, and though they had seemed crowded and muddlesome before, she found she could now see them quite clearly. The first was a picture of a girl standing at a reading-desk reading in a huge book. And the girl was dressed exactly like Lucy. In the next picture Lucy (for the girl in the picture was Lucy herself) was standing up with her mouth open and a rather terrible expression on her face, chanting or reciting something. In the third picture the beauty beyond the lot of mortals had come to her. It was strange, considering how small the pictures had looked at first, that the Lucy in the picture now seemed quite as big as the real Lucy; and they looked into each other's eyes and the real Lucy looked away after a few minutes because she was dazzled by the beauty of the other Lucy; though she could still see a sort of likeness to herself in that beautiful face. And now the pictures came crowding on her thick and fast. She saw herself throned on high at a great tournament in Calormen and all the Kings of the world fought because of her beauty. After that it turned from tournaments to real wars, and all Narnia and Archenland, Telmar and Calormen, Galma and Terebinthia, were laid waste with the fury of the kings and dukes and great lords who fought for her favour. Then it changed and Lucy, still beautiful beyond the lot of mortals, was back in England. And Susan (who had always been the beauty of the family) came home from America. The Susan in the picture looked exactly like the real Susan only plainer and with a nasty expression. And Susan was jealous of the dazzling beauty of Lucy, but that didn't matter a bit because no one cared anything about Susan now.
"I will say the spell," said Lucy. "I don't care. I will."
"A little later she came to a spell which would let you know what your friends thought about you. Now Lucy had wanted very badly to try the other spell, the one that made you beautiful beyond the lot of mortals."
[he tagged:] Hiereus Anaxios
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "Gandalf the Grey is called "the great Wizard" in the novel. Gandalf performs spells like wizards are wont to do."
You are missing, that so does St Raphael in the Book of Tobit.
And that Gandalf in the novel is supposed to be an angelic being.
Men are forbidden certain things when angels are not.
"The Narnia series of C.S. Lewis encourages a belief in magic and teaches children to cast spells and charms."
Does it?
Your quote from Voyage of the Dawn Treader is mismarked "Prince Caspian", which is the previous novel.
You are missing that Lucy is in another world, was obliged to pronounce a spell under a death threat and was clearly warned after that to do spells no more.
Did you get that biassed quote by some priest o[r] did you read the novel yourself?
THAT very definitely is NOT "teaching children to cast spells"
"encourages a belief in magic"
In the sense in which Atheists use the word "magic" (a sense that was popular and which CSL took into account), so does the Bible.
Oh, by the way, I saw it was Hiereus Anaxios who misquoted. So, did he misquote himself or get the misquote from yet another misquoter?
[also tagging:] Hiereus Anaxios - question goes to you!
- Craig Crawford
- Hans-Georg Lundahl In my haste, I simply mistakenly copied and pasted Prince Caspian from my file of excerpts on the series, when you are right, I should have copied and pasted the proper title, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. The quote has nothing to do with coming from Hiereus Anaxios. I simply tagged him at the end of my post, because he seems to be interested in the works of Tolkien and Lewis, and I wanted him to know why these books are promoting evil practices condemned by the true Church, the Orthodox Church.
I am not going to waste my time arguing with you. The Fathers of the Church say that all heretics lack humility, and your obvious lack of humility is why you remain mired in the heresy of papism and are lacking even the most basic fundamental discernment.
You always argue like a scholastic, and I simply do not have the energy to argue every single little detail you wish to argue in the manner of a lawyer, who constantly cries out to the judge, "Objection!"
By your own admission, you have been exposed to the Orthodox Church for many years, and are not merely ignorant of it, but your love of the world, rather than the truth, and your lack of humility has prevented you from abandoning your heretical Latin church for the true Church.
You try to rationalize and justify a heroine of the book, Lucy casting spells as if it were permitted because she is in another world. Then you make the ridiculous claim that angels are permitted to cast spells, which is utter nonsense and never taught anywhere by the Church.
If you do not find any of my connections or arguments convincing, then by all means do not follow me any longer, and do not bother to comment on my posts.
I simply do not have the energy to argue incessantly with someone who has for many years stubbornly resisted the truth, and is not willing to submit to Church teaching, but prefers his own vain opinions.
O Lord, illumine with the light of grace Hans-Georg Lundahl, and all those blinded by pernicious heresies, and draw them to Thyself, and unite them to Thy Holy, Apostolic, Catholic Church. Amen!
- John Dailey
- There is a priest out there that calls lord of the rings a catholic book...
There are several... https://youtu.be/u8pfp6N7XdU
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "The Fathers of the Church say that all heretics lack humility, and your obvious lack of humility is why you remain mired in the heresy of papism and are lacking even the most basic fundamental discernment."
Unless of course antipapism is the heresy, like the liar or believer of liars (though bishop) Paul Balaster showed forth by the lies he promoted about Saint Robert Bellarmine.
I called out the fact that the quote as given is stunted, intended to give an impression the book promotes spells, when on the contrary it very clearly warns against them.
So, your decision to not argue "due to my lack of humility", while it may be honest, at least comes timely to save your face.
"You try to rationalize and justify a heroine of the book, Lucy casting spells as if it were permitted because she is in another world."
She is in another world, she was ignorant of Christianity before going to it, she was to say one spell under a death threat, she loses a friendship over saying one more, she is warned against such things, and when she returns to England, she is supposed to learn to know Aslan under another name He has there - Jesus according to the most common interpretation of the books. [Which is also mine]
And there is no hint of her being allowed to use any spells over here. Or of her using one single more than those two in the rest of the book.
"Then you make the ridiculous claim that angels are permitted to cast spells, which is utter nonsense and never taught anywhere by the Church."
Read Tobit. St Raphael uses fish entrails in a magic way, to drive out a demon.
Obviously St. Raphael was not a sinner.
Also, this [St Raphael comparison] is about Gandalf and not about Lucy.
"If you do not find any of my connections or arguments convincing, then by all means do not follow me any longer, and do not bother to comment on my posts."
I am not following you, we are on each other's friends' lists, so feel free to unfriend me if you like.
- Craig Crawford
- John Dailey What priests are you referring to? Roman Catholic priests or Orthodox priests? The video you posted is well over an hour long. I am not sure what you are getting at. The Chronicles of Narnia and The Lord of the Rings series are pagan and satanic literature, not Christian.
Aslan is not an allegory of Christ as our RC friend here naively supposes. He alludes to the devil
Aslan is a lion that frequently roars in the novels.
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Peter 5:8)
Aslan "the great beast" (as he is called in the novels) commands young maidens to ride on his back. This is an allegory of the Great Whore riding the beast of the Apocalypse.
Narnia is Babylon, and Tumnus is the demon Pan. That is why monsters from Babylon (centaurs, satyrs, fauns, etc.) are found in Narnia. Aslan encourages the children to participate in bacchanalian revelries and orgies. Christ would never do any such thing.
C.S. Lewis was not a genuine Christian, but a fraud. He was an obvious pagan and heretic, who promoted damnable heresies, including evolution, ecumenism, and more.
Lewis and Tolkien were fronts for the secret society, which is why their literature is promoted so heavily by Masonry and apostate Western Christianity.
Tolkien was formally Catholic, and Lewis Protestant, so the secret society deliberately promoted these writers and their writings to appeal to and indoctrinate the adherents of either heresy.
Hans-Georg, you idolize the Roman Pontiff, an apostate from Christianity, who vainly presumes to place himself above the traditions of the Fathers of the Church, the judgments of the Ecumenical Councils, the Holy Apostles, and even Christ Himself. It is only natural that you will imitate the one whom you worship, and place your own judgment above all of the aforementioned.
Instead of a simple and humble faith, which would dictate following the counsels of the Holy Fathers of the Church and not questioning their wisdom and counsel, the Western scholastic mind of the Catholic or Protestant attempts to use vain sophistry in an attempt to provide a rationale for their disobedience to Holy Tradition.
The Fathers of the Church (both East and West) uniformly condemn the use of magic, charms, incantations, and spells, etc.
Trying to take some story from the book of Tobit about burning fish entrails to justify an acceptance of spells and magic is a prime example of what is wrong with the scholastic mindset of the heretical Latins.
Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Gandalf is a wizard who performs spells. He should be put to death according to the Old Law. Rather, Tolkien makes the wizard Gandalf a hero that children want to emulate. Utterly demonic.
Deuteronomy 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Constitutions of the Holy Apostles Book II Sec. VII - On Assembling in the Church
That Christians Must Abstain From All the Impious Practices of the Heathens
"Avoid also indecent spectacles: I mean the theatres and the pomps of the heathens; their enchantments, observations of omens, soothsayings, purgations, divinations, observations of birds; their necromancies and invocations. For it is written: "There is no divination in Jacob, nor soothsaying in Israel." And again: "Divination is iniquity." And elsewhere: "Ye shall not be soothsayers, and follow observers of omens, nor diviners, nor dealers with familiar spirits. Ye shall not preserve alive wizards." Wherefore Jeremiah exhorts, saying: "Walk ye not according to the ways of the heathen, and be not afraid of the signs of heaven." So that it is the duty of a believer to avoid the assemblies of the ungodly, of the heathen, and of the Jews, and of the rest of the heretics, lest by uniting ourselves to them we bring snares upon our own souls; that we may not by joining in their feasts, which are celebrated in honour of demons, be partakers with them in their impiety."
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "The Chronicles of Narnia and The Lord of the Rings series are pagan and satanic literature, not Christian."
That is a minority view, goes against what authors and their friends have said. It would need some backing up.
"Aslan is not an allegory of Christ as our RC friend here naively supposes. He alludes to the devil"
Thank you for "naively" - that means my view is the more obvious one. [The exact word "allegory" isn't part of it.]
"1 Peter 5:8"
I have heard that story, but where do you push in "seeking whom he may devour" in Aslan?
It is a bit like when Roman Easter exultet containing the word "lucifer" is accused of being Luciferian and referring to the fallen Lucifer of Isaiah 12 or Isaiah 14. In fact it refers to the morning star who doesn't fall "ille, dicam, lucifer, qui nescit occasum", namely the one mentioned in 2 Peter 1:19. You see, Satan is not the only one considered a lion in the Bible, Christ is so too.
"Aslan "the great beast" (as he is called in the novels) commands young maidens to ride on his back. This is an allegory of the Great Whore riding the beast of the Apocalypse."
How often is Aslan called "the great beast" and by whom, in the novels? When are maidens (Susan and Lucy are both banned from returning to Narnia when they get to the age of puberty) allegories of whores?
Or refers to Christ allowing children to come to Him. You tell it as if it were a set habit, but in fact it is a one occasion only happening.
"Narnia is Babylon, and Tumnus is the demon Pan. That is why monsters from Babylon (centaurs, satyrs, fauns, etc.) are found in Narnia."
Are the named ones really monsters from Babylon? It so happens, in Egypt, St. Anthony visiting St. Paul the First Hermit saw first a faun weeping because pagans were worshipping him (original behind Tumnus' "I'm such a bad faun") and then a centaur who answered in no intelligible words (to him) but showed the correct way.
For Narnia to be Babylon, it is certainly lacking in ambitions of world conquest.
"Aslan encourages the children to participate in bacchanalian revelries and orgies. Christ would never do any such thing."
Do people dance at Orthodox weddings? Do people drink wine when Orthodox make an agape? The Bacchus feast (where Bacchus appears as a servant, not as a god to be worshipped) is not shown with drunkenness (nothing beyond tipsy, which is deliberate is only a venial sin, not a mortal), nor with sex orgies.
It so happens, apart from Greco-Roman or Phrygian or whatever Bacchus worshippers, Romans classed four other religions as Bacchus worship : Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism and Christianity. The first persecution of Christians in Rome was legally invoking the Senatus Consultum de Baccanalibus. Sei quis velitod Baccanal habuisse ...
"C.S. Lewis was not a genuine Christian, but a fraud. He was an obvious pagan and heretic, who promoted damnable heresies, including evolution, ecumenism, and more."
For evolution, it is at least true for his beginnings. The Creation scene in Narnia may have been the turning point in his thinking on it. For ecumenism, well, as he was an Anglican, he was better off not being stand-offish to Catholics and Orthodox. For both, he was indebted to Charles Gore, whom the Anglicans consider as a bishop. That is, he was probably believing he was on the road of canonic obedience when engaging in these failures. Which makes "fraud" very moot. Unless you mean despite himself.
"Lewis and Tolkien were fronts for the secret society, which is why their literature is promoted so heavily by Masonry and apostate Western Christianity."
A heavy allegation, with no proof. The "witness" of John Todd is none such, since it came when CSL had been dead for 10 years and JRRT was dying, and so neither was in any kind of position to defend himself against the allegations. Earlier allegations to same effect are, to my best knowledge, lacking.
I did not know their books were heavily promoted by Masonry. [If he meant the publishers, he has not documented Unwin - father or son - or Geoffrey Bles or the Bodley Head founders were Masons, any of them]
"you idolize the Roman Pontiff, an apostate from Christianity, who vainly presumes to place himself above the traditions of the Fathers of the Church, the judgments of the Ecumenical Councils, the Holy Apostles, and even Christ Himself."
I do not idolise Pope Michael, and he is not an apostate from Christianity. As for "Pope Francis" I agree he is apostate, but I do not agree he is a Roman Pontiff.
Pope Michael does not presume to place himself above the traditions and judgements of the Church.
"Instead of a simple and humble faith, which would dictate following the counsels of the Holy Fathers of the Church and not questioning their wisdom and counsel, the Western scholastic mind of the Catholic or Protestant attempts to use vain sophistry in an attempt to provide a rationale for their disobedience to Holy Tradition."
Again, a heavy allegation, and again, with no proof whatsoever.
"The Fathers of the Church (both East and West) uniformly condemn the use of magic, charms, incantations, and spells, etc."
By men, and obviously not including the parts of liturgy which some anthropologists would consider as same.
Gandalf is an angelic being, not a man, and he does NOT encourage men or hobbits to use such things.
"Trying to take some story from the book of Tobit about burning fish entrails to justify an acceptance of spells and magic is a prime example of what is wrong with the scholastic mindset of the heretical Latins."
We cannot condemn all that any refer to as "magic" due to this. We must condemn what the fathers referred to as magic.
Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Fine, this speaks about mortals (man or woman), and Gandalf is not one, and as to Lucy, she had no familiar spirit and also did not say more spells than two, with the one considered clearly as a sin and the other done by a promise to avoid death, does not make her a wizard.
"Gandalf is a wizard who performs spells."
But not a man or a woman.
"He should be put to death according to the Old Law."
Like St. Raphael? Plus, this was (in an uchronia) before the Old Law. Lucy was doing two spells in a world where Old and New law as such were not valid covenants for that world.
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,
Exactly why Denethor is condemned for trying to commit suicide while dragging his feverish son Faramir with him (Faramir is saved, Denethor succeeds in the suicide which is condemned).
No necromancer? Well, who is called "The Necromancer" in these novels? Sauron, the second in command of the demons (like Abaddon to Satan). You cannot judge Gandalf for the enumerated things, unless you would want to judge St. Raphael for magic as well.
"Avoid also indecent spectacles: I mean the theatres and the pomps of the heathens; their enchantments, observations of omens, soothsayings, purgations, divinations, observations of birds; their necromancies and invocations."
Tolkien and Lewis made sure there was no sex "onstage" even to the point of Atheists calling them immature.
- John Dailey
- I was just pointing out that when the LotR is criticized, catholics will pop up defending it. I was hoping you would analyze this phenonmenon with your incredibly focused and detailed eye. It's interesting that the catholic church is using a tedious and childish movie franchise as a recruiting tool, since more than one priest is giving lectures on this then has it been organized and directed from higher levels of power in the church? Will LotR become catholic canon? Its a strange and surreal world we live in. Hollywood has way to much power over us, certainly.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "It's interesting that the catholic church is using a tedious and childish movie franchise as a recruiting tool,"
Has it occured to you that LotR was a novel before being a movie franchise and that many have not found the novel either tedious or childish?
Has it occurred to you that many converted to Catholicism partly due to Tolkien (I am one of them) well before those priests started, and they are simply saying "wait a minute, something's going on, it's worth looking at"?
Has it occurred to you that even your own somewhat exaggerated suspicions about Tolkien and Lewis are a culture shift to which LotR and Narnia very much contributed by saying, both, "sorcery is real and it is really evil, and it is really more dangerous than those dabbling with it will see when they dabble" in a way sufficiently convincing to make a difference in the English speaking culture?
Back when LotR and Narnia were published (as books, not recent post-2000 movie franchises) English public were like "Merlin in The Sword of the Stone is a Magician, what a lark!" or laughing at the "bibbidy-bobbidy-boo" of the fairy godmother or madame Mim in Disney.
I agree magic is not harmless entertainment, but Lewis and Tolkien do not treat it that way. They treat it like, some beings naturally have "magic powers", which is true of God and of all angelic beings, insofar as magic powers mean powers more than human in ways other than superhuman muscle strength or running speed, insofar as they mean another way of interacting with surroundings than by a human body, and those who don't, mortals, like men or any manlike creatures, had better stay away very far from trying to get hold of such powers.
The Magician's Nephew was written after the "two spells' scene" in Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Magicians are treated as both drama queens and ultimately extremely stupid and self destructive, not meaning they aren't destructive to others as well before destroying themselves. Which is exactly like wizards should be portrayed.
"Will LotR become catholic canon?"
No more than Quest of the Holy Grail.
"Hollywood has way to much power over us, certainly."
I for one was a fan of both Lewis and Tolkien way before Hollywood got involved. [Peter Jackson / Walden, respectively, forgot earlier productions]
They have a way of getting readers without Hollywood, and even if the Hollywood franchises increased their numbers, that was already a good thing before this happened.
- Added:
- John Dailey and Craig Crawford, let me put both of you to a test.
I'd like answers from both before the weekend is over, and it is on this : if I claim it is probable that Hercules lived, does that make me a Pagan in your view?
- Solution :
- there was a Church Father or ecclesiastic writer (early centuries) who said "Hercules was a strong man, not a god".
That is dealing with Hercules as a real person (though not really worthy of worship).
Some Puritans would consider it pagan considering Hercules lived like some may have considered it pagan to consider Siddharta Gautama lived. St Francis Xaver did not consider it pagan, he considered it a question a Christian could ask. He resolved in the negative, for no man has lived 9000 years in diverse shapes, but that is beside the question, that is like saying no man has Zeus the Olympian thundergod literally as his father. I think it would be Puritan to consider it out of the question that Hercules lived.
- Other discussion
- starting out from one of my previous comments:
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "Niel-sen, obviously alluding to Neil Armstrong."
Except Niels-sen (s simplified in one word) refers to "son of Nicolas".
- Craig Crawford
- The fact of the matter is, Niel sounds exactly the same as Neil. Even some people spell the surname Neil-son rather than Niel-sen. The secret society only cares that they phonetically sound the same.
Since the moon landings were obviously faked/staged, there is great significance as to why the secret society arranged to have someone named Neil Armstrong as their celebrity astronaut. They could have picked any person with any name.
Neil is an anagram of Nile (i.e. river in Egypt), and of course that is why Charlton Heston plays Moses, who was was drawn from the Nile by Pharaoh's daughter in The Ten Commandments (1956).
She says: "You will see him [Moses] walk with his head among the eagles."
She says Moses (Charlton Heston) will "walk" for the myth of walking on the moon. "among the eagles" because Neil Armstrong purportedly commanded the Apollo Lunar Module "Eagle" down to the surface of the moon.
The Ten Commandments 1956
Pharaoh's daughter adopts the baby as her own child - The Ten Commandments 1956 https://youtu.be/pXxg7xsrjHg?t=217
The Ten Commandments (1956) is so very much obviously about the hoax moon landings and Neil Armstrong.
They chose the surname Arm-strong to allude to:
Son of man, I have broken the arm of Pharaoh king of Egypt; and, lo, it shall not be bound up to be healed, to put a roller to bind it, to make it strong to hold the sword. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and will break his arms, the strong, and that which was broken; and I will cause the sword to fall out of his hand. (Ezekiel 30:21-22)
As you can see, Sacred Scripture refers to the "strong arm" of Pharaoh being broken.
The name Neil also is related to Niall of the Nine Hostages, who is supposed to be descended from the Egyptian Pharaoh Nectanebo II, who built the Egyptian temple of Isis.
you can read about this here:
Geoghegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoghegan...
The film Heaven Help Us (also known as Catholic Boys) (1985) is about this Geoghegan and Niall of the Nine Hostages and the Roman Catholic priest John J. Geoghan who was scripted by the secret society to play the role of a serial child rapist while assigned to parishes in the Archdiocese of Boston in Massachusetts under Cardinal Bernard Francis Law.
The Catholic Church sexual abuse saga is a deliberately scripted psy-op shown ahead of time in numerous Hollywood productions, including the aforementioned.
All of this is related to August 5, birthday of Neil Armstrong, and the heliacal rising of the star Sirius, the sign of Isis, hearkening the flooding of the Nile.
The Aswan Dam impounds the Nile, forming Lake Nasser, and that is why the secret society of Masonry made up a story of sexual abuser Larry Nassar. Nassa-r for NASA.
The Masonic judge in the case, Rosemarie Aquilina, because Aquilina means "eagle," as in "The Eagle Has Landed".
Her novel Feel No Evil (2003) refers to Ecclesiastes 8:5 "Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing"
Ecclesiastes 8:5 for August 5.
The character in her book, is named Samantha "Sam" Armstrong, obviously to allude to Neil Armstrong and his birthday August 5. Sam Armstrong is said to be 5 feet 8 inches tall in the book, for the 5 August.
Her book published in 2017 about child sexual abuse, Triple Cross Killer, obviously refers to the papal triple cross.
Speaking of Leslie Nielsen, he starred in the 1960's TV series Mission Impossible, which is also about revealing their plans to fake the moon landings (it's also about the staged Watergate psy-op). The mission to the moon is frequently referred to in the press as "Mission Impossible" or an "impossible mission".
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "Niel sounds exactly the same as Neil. Even some people spell the surname Neil-son rather than Niel-sen."
And God might care that Niels-sen actually uses his own name?
"Since the moon landings were obviously faked/staged,"
Possibly is one thing, obviously, I disagree.
"The name Neil also is related to Niall of the Nine Hostages, who is supposed to be descended from the Egyptian Pharaoh Nectanebo II, who built the Egyptian temple of Isis."
That Neill and Niall is the same name, there I agree.
That Niall of the nine hostages is supposed to descend from Nectanebo II is more than I knew. There were several builders of Isis-temples in Egypt.
I don't think your connections connect very much.
On this latter, he invited me to stop following me, and since I was not following him, but had added him as friend, I told him he could unfriend me if he liked. He didn't.
I just noticed this passage:
I simply do not have the energy to argue every single little detail you wish to argue in the manner of a lawyer, who constantly cries out to the judge, "Objection!"
I take no umbrage on being compared to such a lawyer, but where does his comparison of self to a judge come in? Or perhaps there isn't one, he could refer to that being the guy the lawyer adresses formally. (Doesn't he ever adress the accuser that way?)
