- Friend, status
- Male students should focus on their studies, and women should do their laundry for them, among other things.
[Got an error when trying to look up what I link to:]
NY Daily News : Spanish Students fight college ban on doing their own laundry
[Vital info: colegio in Spanish is not like college in US, it is more like Junior High School]
- Actually, I think its a good thing for a man to learn to do laundry and other household jobs...maybe his vocation is the single life? or what about when his wife has a baby? or wife is sick? and...married life maybe the vocation for most...but not for all.
- It is vital for men to know how. 6 mos after Luke was born, I went down w hepatitis. 6 weeks of total incapacitation. Thank God Jim knew how to care for 2 wee babies & myself.
- Seriously. This is not feminism, it is common sense.
- Yeah, we cannot always do all our husbands stuff for them.
- Hubster was in the Navy, so he already knew how to wash & iron his clothes, sew buttons & insignia, etc.
- HGL (me bumping in among the ladies)
- Probably the laundry is done by employees. NOT by female students.
[Bad guess, see later down]
- Why are the guys banned from these laundry rooms? It doesn't really say. Is it a joke? Is it because they mess things up? lol The article just leaves out some pertinent info, it seems.
- "At Duque de Ahumada de la Guardia Civil college men must find women to do their laundry for them."
I had not read the article.
I supposed it was a somewhat luxurious college. Where students are supposed to study and pass laundry to employees.
NOT Guardia Civil and NOT getting not therefore employed women to do it. I will try to ask if it was an april fools joke or if this online is a satire site.
If NOT, there is a serious homophobia - in the sense we need the word for - going on. LIKE thinking men who are able to do their laundry are pansies.
If the following comic book exists, the site is not satire:
[Error while trying to look up link, same online publication:]
Ms. Marvel, aka Muslim teen Kamala Khan from Jersey City, set to make historic comic book series...
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Ah, the article from the Guardian makes a bit more sense:
Students at Spanish college fight ban on men using washing machines
Madrid residence threatens to expel male students who do their own laundry – they are told to find female friends to do it instead
Ashifa Kassam in Madrid
The Guardian, Saturday 3 May 2014
The no male laundry rule could date from times when conditions where a bit like what I was wondering about. BUT how come it was kept when female students were admitted?
"It's not the only antiquated rule that the students object to, he said. Male students are not allowed to enter rooms of female students, while others have complained about difficulty receiving visitors, "as if it were a prison instead of a residence" where students pay €465 (£380) a month. Any student looking to change the rules, through taking action against management, risks immediate expulsion."
This is a rule which DOES make sense once there are female students there.
And look what was perhaps a bit overlooked in the medium we were watching first:
"On Saturday, the Guardia Civil said the laundry was set up years ago at the request of female students, to allow them to wash their undergarments.
While males could not use the washing machines, it said all students had access to an off-site laundry service, the cost of which was included in their monthly fees."
THIS actually makes sense. Some female students might have objected to washing their laundry in same washing machines as men not of their family. THAT would make sense plus the off site laundry service would fix any inconvenience.
NY Daily News caught redhandedly in giving just one side of the story, when the other is to be had.
Unless the story of the Guardian was updated with extra info had on Saturday AFTER NY Daily News linked to it, but I saw no sign of the Guardian story having been updated after publishing, and that is standard in online publishing. Including my blogs.
- M McB
- I remember the Marines coming back to the States from Okinawa miss having Mama-San washing their laundry and cutting their hair. And just having her do their laundry freed up a bit of time to focus on other things.
- Actually, they are not Guardia Civil.
I thought they were because it was the Guardia Civil Union that was demanding change of rules. BUT the college is for the sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters of Guardia Civil.*
The beginning is girls and boys can both get laundry done.
NEXT girls ask for laundry machines so they can do more laundry. THe machines are calculated for the girls and boys who use them are stopping girls from having their laundry wishes met. HENCE punished.
OBVIOUSLY since boys have become more squeamish over a little dirt since back then.
How about banning coed? [=Co-Ed]
AND if the rule against boys visiting girls' rooms is outdated**, I hope that Spanish judges are generous about requests for juvenile marriage. In reality they are NOT and the rule is not so much outdated as unrealistically inadequate if there is one school for both.
- Link to Papal Encyclical Divini Illius Magistri
- EWTN : DIVINI ILLIUS MAGISTRI (On Christian Education)
Pope Pius XI
Encyclical promulgated on 31 December 1929
- Quote from it:
- 65. Another very grave danger is that naturalism which nowadays invades the field of education in that most delicate matter of purity of morals. Far too common is the error of those who with dangerous assurance and under an ugly term propagate a so-called sex-education, falsely imagining they can forearm youths against the dangers of sensuality by means purely natural, such as a foolhardy initiation and precautionary instruction for all indiscriminately, even in public; and, worse still, by exposing them at an early age to the occasions, in order to accustom them, so it is argued, and as it were to harden them against such dangers.
68. False also and harmful to Christian education is the so-called method of "coeducation." This too, by many of its supporters, is founded upon naturalism and the denial of original sin; but by all, upon a deplorable confusion of ideas that mistakes a leveling promiscuity and equality, for the legitimate association of the sexes. The Creator has ordained and disposed perfect union of the sexes only in matrimony, and, with varying degrees of contact, in the family and in society. Besides there is not in nature itself, which fashions the two quite different in organism, in temperament, in abilities, anything to suggest that there can be or ought to be promiscuity, and much less equality, in the training of the two sexes. These, in keeping with the wonderful designs of the Creator, are destined to complement each other in the family and in society, precisely because of their differences, which therefore ought to be maintained and encouraged during their years of formation, with the necessary distinction and corresponding separation, according to age and circumstances. These principles, with due regard to time and place, must, in accordance with Christian prudence, be applied to all schools, particularly in the most delicate and decisive period of formation, that, namely, of adolescence; and in gymnastic exercises and deportment, special care must be had of Christian modesty in young women and girls, which is so gravely impaired by any kind of exhibition in public.
69. Recalling the terrible words of the Divine Master: "Woe to the world because of scandals!" We most earnestly appeal to your solicitude and your watchfulness, Venerable Brethren, against these pernicious errors, which, to the immense harm of youth, are spreading far and wide among Christian peoples.
- * See this quote from Guardian Article:
Male students at the dorm, which caters for the children and grandchildren of Guardia Civil officers, are instead instructed to quietly pass their clothes to female friends to be washed.
The association that represents Guardia Civil officers is demanding that the rule be changed.
** See this quote:
It's not the only antiquated rule that the students object to, ... said [Francisco Cecilia, of the Unified Guardia Civil Association]. Male students are not allowed to enter rooms of female students, while others have complained about difficulty receiving visitors, "as if it were a prison instead of a residence" where students pay €465 (£380) a month. Any student looking to change the rules, through taking action against management, risks immediate expulsion.
Francisco Cecilia had been interviewed by El Mundo.
lundi 26 mai 2014
The Colegio is not for Future Guardia Civil, but for Children and Grandchildren of Guardia Civil
1) HGL's F.B. writings : The Colegio is not for Future Guardia Civil, but for Children and Grandchildren of Guardia Civil, 2) Correspondence of Hans-Georg Lundahl : On NY Dailynews