- The-Why-Guy
- God is a modern invention by man from the late Bronze age yet humans have existed for over 300,000 years. On top of that humans would eventually expand their territory across most of the world by 10k-15k years ago. A couple of questions...
Why was God silent for so long?
Why did God only show up in a very tiny part of the world when his created humans covered his created earth?
If he wasn't silent for 95% of human history then why doesn't any other cultures reference him from any other part of the world before the invention of the Hebrew Bible?
If your excuse is that God created the "new earth" just 7,000 years ago, which is equivalent to flat earth, then the problem is still in the regional isolation of God.
No matter how you splice it, it's clear that God was born out of religious evolution in a very tiny part of the world and doesn't even mention the rest of his human creation that had already populated the whole world.
The problem with God from the Bible is scale.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "yet humans have existed for over 300,000 years. On top of that humans would eventually expand their territory across most of the world by 10k-15k years ago."
OK ... can you conclusively prove your timeline?
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- The-Why-Guy
- Hans-Georg Lundahl it's not my time line, but yes it's fact that humans first appear 300,000+ years ago in Africa and we've dated human footprints in New Mexico at about 20,000-23,000 years ago. I recommend taking some college classes on anthropology and history for a better understanding of the human time line.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- "300,000+ years ago in Africa" proven by?
"dated human footprints in New Mexico at about 20,000-23,000 years ago." dito?
- The-Why-Guy
- Hans-Georg Lundahl yes they've been proven by lots of people. In the academic world they call it peer reviewed and validated. They replicate the experiments, confirm accuracy of the data, along with having others pick apart their thesis before confirming it as factual. Creationist* have never been able to create any evidence of the contrary without just saying "it must be so because I said so because the Bible says so." Even Christian scholars disagree with the small sect of Christians who believe in a young earth. It's right up there with a flat earth theory.
Ironically enough this was my very first debate topic in seminary as a devout Christian and I destroyed my debate partner who was defending the new earth logic so unless you have some new evidence that's been peer reviewed and confirmed then it's hilarious that you would ask me to prove what's already been proven. I can't help you learn if you refuse to accept new information. Have you researched this topic outside of the pages of the Bible that was written only 3000 years ago? What university did you attend that disproved an old earth? I'm more than happy to engage intellectually with you on this subject, but you would need to be willing to research your own argument first.
- * footnote
- Why "Creationist have" and not "Creationists have"?
Is he a Slav who doesn't master English?
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- OK, let's be more precise.
BY what method, which works how?
Creationist have never been able to create any evidence of the contrary without just saying "it must be so because I said so because the Bible says so."
When it comes to carbon dating (possible for the date of the footprints if it is associated with oprganic material), I do come with evidence that the raw data of the dating method are compatible with a real date of 2738 BC to 2719 BC.
Creation vs. Evolution: Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt
https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2024/12/newer-tables-flood-to-joseph-in-egypt.html
Yes, I elaborated these tables.
"Even Christian scholars disagree with the small sect of Christians who believe in a young earth."
A small minority doesn't mean a small sect. CMI éare usually Protestants, I'm Catholic.
"you would need to be willing to research your own argument first."
I did in 2015, when challenged on rising carbon and diminishing apparent age, according to them, causing a severe radiation problem.*
- * footnote
- In case it isn't clear, one I think I have solved, if you look up the link and then click back to "B) Distances and speeds." in the previous post Newer Tables, Preliminaries.
- II
- Bill Lyon
- Hans-Georg Lundahl sure, there were no dinosaurs on Noahs Ark. Adam and Eve populated the world but we wind up with so many different races. All in 6000 years. Why did adam and eve have belly buttons, seeing as they were created in gods image?
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- First, we don't know they had belly buttons.
Second, racial differences (including to Neanderthal and Denisovan, pre-Flood races) don't take that long.
Third, there were dinos on Noah's Ark. They went extinct later.
Anything more?
samedi 27 juin 2026
Yes, you meant what?
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