Someone Attacked the Crusades

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Hans-Georg Lundahl

Religions are not locked demographics.

One is perfectly capable of converting.

Demographics are capable of converting.

Loren Hickerson

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Hans-Georg Lundahl All it takes is a little bit of genocide. Which Christians are really good at, seeing as how their scripture not only explains how to commit it, but also justifies it as okay.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Loren Hickerson Or a little bad mouthing, which Atheists and Freemasons are excellent at against Christians, with a little genocide (Vendée, Russian Revolution, Holodomor) to back it up.

The same is also partly true of Protestants against Catholics, who are the real Christians.

No, the Bible does not promote Genocide. Whatever you could say about ethnic cleansings under Joshua, they were under Joshua Ben Nun. Under Jesus, the orders are to make disciples of all nations, which implies killing off none of them. And unlike both Protestants and Atheists, we have generally obeyed that (some places of Canaries and Hispaniola did suffer from bad habits that Spaniards took over from Muslims).

Loren Hickerson

Hans-Georg Lundahl Cool except every part of philosophy and history proves you wrong.

Just the fact that you completely ignored the Crusades is enough to make me laugh and recognize you as an idiot and a liar.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Loren Hickerson Crusades were not genocidal, and the ones in the Orient were not missionary.

You could get one point for 5000 people massacred in Béziers for being (among) Albigensians.

Loren Hickerson

Hans-Georg Lundahl Look at you pivot and then suggest bold faced lies.

Cambridge has multiple studies showing the Crusades were a genocide.

Infact, the depiction of blood often mentioned in the Crusades is so egregious, as to suggest that blood ran through the streets up to the ankles of the Judaic and Muslim places the Crusaders attacked. Being a bold faced liar doesn't make you right. It makes you and your religion you're defending look like it has bold faced liars in it. Thanks, but I want no part of that doctrine.

And I don't see how mentioning the Inquisition helps your case.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

"blood ran through the streets up to the ankles"

Literary exaggeration. Note that Jerusalem's taking in 1099 could be added to Béziers, 3 days, until Geoffrey of Bouillon stopped it.

Again, the taking of Jerusalem wasn't a missionary enterprise, and the liar here is either you, or the people you wrongly trust.

"Cambridge has multiple studies showing the Crusades were a genocide."

Like very new ones by Muslim students?

Loren Hickerson "And I don't see how mentioning the Inquisition helps your case."

To showcase your ignorance, I didn't. The Albigensian Crusade and the Inquisition are two distinct things.

Loren Hickerson

[lol to both]

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Loren Hickerson Just checking ... did you have actual answers to what I stated, or do you prefer making a show of laughing?

Harcèlement

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Hans-Georg Lundahl

Je suis dans un cyber.

À côté de moi, un homme dont les premiers mots sont "vous allez bien ?" ou "tu vas bien ?" et qui ensuite dit "je te connais" ... je le reconnais sur les ongles en vernis noir. Depuis hier. Soit je ne l'avais pas vu avant le bref rencontre hier, soit c'était il y a très longtemps.

Ce genre de personne m'isole des gens que j'aimerais côtoyer en épuisant mon énergie sociale sur eux.

Un peu avant, je m'assois pour manger une glace. Un grand paquet. C'est à la place Theodor Herzl. Quand je m'assois, deux personnes, que je ne connais pas, sont à l'autre côté de la statue.

L'un d'entre eux dit à l'autre "c'est Jésus" mais en pas beaucoup de bruit. Je ne m'appelle pas Jésus. Par contre, je sais que des gens des accueils de jour, par exemple SOS Accueil à Versailles, qu'ils ont parfois voulu m'appeler "Jésus" comme si je me prenais pour Lui. Ce qui n'est pas le cas.

Cette fois à Versailles, je n'ai pas eu gain de cause, un policier musulman (au moins de la population) protège les harceleurs musulmans, pour les dénoncer j'ai eu à me déplacer vers le commissariat de Versailles, et attendre, tandis que, dès l'intervention, ... l'homme à côté me quitte, heureusement ... les harceleurs ont eu pleine liberté de se prononcer sur moi devant les forces d'ordre. Ils pouvaient me dénoncer comme fou complet dans leur exaltation de pouvoir abusif, moi, la victime, devait attendre pour me calmer.

Revenons à la glace. Des pompiers viennent. Ils me demandent si je les ai appelés. Je hoche les épaules en continuant à manger ma glace. Ils se font des conversations assez longtemps, demandent à droite et à gauche, les deux qui étaient là sont partis, et parlent d'un homme de 36 ou quelque chose.

Diverses hypothèses se posent. Une est une hargne très grande chez des sdf pour ma situation avec davantage indépendance qu'eux. Les pompiers seraient les victimes de leur surchérie. Mais alors ils auraient pu me demander si j'avais fait appel, sans plus, sans de s'attendre à côté de moi jusqu'à ce que j'avais fini la glace. Un paquet d'un demi-litre ou demi-kilo. Je n'étais qu'à la moitié quand ils venaient, peut-être même pas ça.

Une autre est, quelqu'un dans les services ou peut-être sévices médicaux voudraient me coller dans la psychiatrie. Ceci était alors un harcèlement de plus, je viens d'en subir un autre le 16 par le fouillage et éparpillement de mes choses que je découvre en revenant sur mes affaires.

Quand je suis enfin suffisamment récupéré d'une bronchite pour aller à la police, le policier fait des délais et re-délais pour vérifier et revérifier que mon histoire soit cohérente. Quand je part de la police et reviens à mes affaires, encore une fois mes choses sont fouillées.

Un des jours entre le 16 et mon pv ma ceinture un cuir avait été volée.

Quelqu'un semble décidé de me tamponner comme fou. Et de me traiter en fonction. Me priver de ceinture au cas au je serais suicidaire. Me noyer en compagnie pour prévenir des pensées noires. Et bien entendu me faire subir des tests de cohérence mentale. Un peu comme Hitler ou ses hommes ordonnaient à faire subir Schuschnigg une surveillance accrue pour le tourmenter, sous prétexte qu'il serait suicidaire. Et puisque Hitler soutenais une dictature médicale, quoi de plus naturel, comme harcèlement d'un ennemi ? Le régime de Hitler n'est pas mort partout en 1945. La dictature médicale, ça reste. Et au cas qu'on dirait "non, c'est socialiste, c'est communiste" - il paraît que Hitler avait été en deux régimes temporaires, plus ou moins léninistes, celui d'Eisner et celui de Levien ou de Leviné ou s'ils étaient dans le même gouvernement.

Facebook Connection Phishing For an Email?

HGL'S F.B. WRITINGS: Facebook Connection Phishing For an Email? · New blog on the kid: Phishing for an Email

It so happens, the password I entered for that FB account was correct.

Update, 27.I.2025, 22:20:

Again, the password was correct./HGL

Update, 1.II.2025:

Update 6.II.2025:

Zuckerberg Changed His Policy?

By 20 minutes 18 seconds in this video, I had heard it:

Singing From the Ruins | FORWARD BOLDLY
Christine Niles | 12.I.2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkjWGRkFezI

I decided to test. Well, not to me:

What I tried to share, the first of these three (which link to each other), here:

Newer Tables: Preliminaries · Flood to Joseph in Egypt · Joseph in Egypt to Fall of Troy.

Where a tried to share:

Radiometric Dating
https://www.facebook.com/groups/201189381177748

The group is dedicated to a discussion between Deep Timers and Young Earth Creationists about diverse methods of Radiometric dating, one of which is carbon dating. My intended post was entirely appropriate for the group. No one has stamped my blogs as criminal in any court of law in France, at least none where I was able to answer or that I heard of. Facebook is treating my blogs as criminal, because they do not support the agenda of promoting Big Bang Cosmology, Deep Time Evolution, possibly also parts of what Roger Buck calls "Eastern, Esoteric, Ecumenic, English" which does take issue with Modern Science on lots of issues, but not on these ones./HGL

Pre-Tribulation Rapture is NOT Biblical

GB

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29.XII.2024

HGL

The problem with this is, it presents a pre-tribulation rapture.

Those left behind will have a few hours or minutes before they die and resurrect before a judge. Those raptured will have a few hours or minutes before they hear a trump and see their brethren and enemies walk up from graves, lining up on two sides of Our Lord.

The Bible no-where says that the rapture is pre-tribulation, or, even if* there is a partial one, that all the Church will be raptured before the Tribulation.

This teaching is pretty toxic, since it leads to conclusions like this one:

It can't be the anti-christ or the mark in Revelation. It's okay to take the chip and follow this man because if it were the mark of the beast we'd all have been raptured by now.

Or someone else pretended the strong delusion foreseen in II Thessalonians is post-rapture. Nope.

GB

[omitting a pc**]

HGL and then i read ur comment, u got it all wrong hun

HGL He is going to take us somewhere: John 14:3

how ne1 can deny the rapture is beyond me

[facepalm]

PM

HGL The pre-trib Rapture IS shown in Scripture

The Rapture Generation
https://www.alongemausroad.com/rapture

JD

HGL "no where"? Prove that.

HGL

GB

And if I shall go, and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and will take you to myself; that where I am, you also may be
[John 14:3]

Yes, but it doesn't say this happens before the tribulation.

PM

The absence of the word "Church" from chapter 4 in Apocalypse doesn't prove the Church is actually missing.

The idea that the restrainer is the Church is false. Church is feminine, so, it would be feminine "he katekhousa" but we have masculine "ho katekhon" and indeed a prequel of the final Antichrist started when in Austria and in Russia a heir of the then ho katekhon, of Emperor Claudius, was taken out of the way. The restrainer is the Roman Emperor.

JD, give me all places that talk of the rapture, and I will shown none speak of that being pre-Tribulation.

CM

HGL; It is the Bowls of Wrath that we do not experience. Jesus makes His Harvest from ABOVE the clouds, just before it starts. Rev.14:14-16. Then the Bowls of Wrath are poured upon the earth. The 5th and 6th trumpet events put the false one into power after the 1,260 days Daniel was told about in DAN.12. 30 days later the false one is standing in the holy place claiming to be god. 45 days later BLESSED are they that WAIT and come to the 1,335th day. I figure that is when Jesus makes His Harvest of His crops to the Master's Barn! We will be ONE with Him then and may be assigned to help in our Eternal Bodies during the Bowls of Wrath. This honor have all the saints! Psalm 149:1-9; JOEL 2:1-11

HGL

If you check the previous verse in Apocalype 14, namely verse 13, it says:

And I heard a voice from heaven, saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, who die in the Lord. From henceforth now, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; for their works follow them
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 14:13]

The Church may not experience the bowls of wrath, but neither did Goshen experience the Ten Plagues of Egypt.

Saints who are already in Heaven, having already died, no doubt participate in punishing the persecutors of those of the Church who are still standing on ground level. This will not be much different for when the Antichrist is on scene than it is already.

CM

HGL; What we are seeing now, and all that has happened in the past is NOTHING compared to what the 7 trumpet events will do. The first 4 are not woes, but the 5th, 6th, and 7th are classified as WOES! Like never before. The 5th and 6th I believe may have something to do with fallen angels/UFO's, demons, etc. They put the false one into power claiming he is god returned to save humanity. Blessed are they that wait and do not take the mark [probably 45 days; Dan.12]. Then the 7th and LAST trumpet sounds, which is classified as the greatest of all WOES, God's Bowls of Wrath! These events will be nothing like any of our recorded history. We may at any time now start seeing the trumpets manifest.

HGL

You have not contradicted any of my observations.

* Note

"Third Eagle of the Apocalypse" / William Tapley considers some Protestants of goodwill will be raptured. But they won't be the Church, on his view they would be kind of annexed souls as an outlier to Her, and the Church will continue on Earth to Armageddon. I'm not saying he's right. I'm saying he's not refusing the normal Catholic view on I Cor. 4, he's speaking of Matthew 24:17, housetops or rooftops (he reasons: "if they can't go down, there is only up left", I think "go down" could refer to go down into the house, they are told to wait until the enemy is out of sight, or perhaps take the stairs to the outside and run, at least, definitely, not to go down into the house — it is possible this was already fulfilled with Titus' arrival).

** Note

Not a personal computer, but a personal comment.

Fake Patristics

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Mikael Rosén

Hans-Georg Lundahl

"Indeed it is better to keep quite about our beliefs, and live them out, than to talk eloquently about what we believe, but fail to live by it." ???

Couldn't find even "talk eloquently" in his letters online. Including the spurious ones.

Also (as much) from St. Ignatius:

"Beware of fake Patristics quotes on the internet" ...

To me, the idea sounds very much like what the KGB would make the Patriarchate of Moscow regurgitate and then blame the Church Fathers for it, like, also, denial of Young Earth Creationism or the idea of taking Genesis as allegorically only.

Above was after an F-search in his epistles.

I double checked. Google searched, found a longer quote about tree and fruit and F-searched "fruit" instead. It actually could well count as a summary or excerpt of this passage in his Epistle to the Ephesians, especially if from a different translation:

Chapter 14. Exhortations to faith and love

None of these things is hid from you, if you perfectly possess that faith and love towards Christ Jesus 1 Timothy 1:14 which are the beginning and the end of life. For the beginning is faith, and the end is love. 1 Timothy 1:5 Now these two, being inseparably connected together, are of God, while all other things which are requisite for a holy life follow after them. No man [truly] making a profession of faith sins; 1 John 3:7 nor does he that possesses love hate any one. The tree is made manifest by its fruit; Matthew 12:33 so those that profess themselves to be Christians shall be recognised by their conduct. For there is not now a demand for mere profession, but that a man be found continuing in the power of faith to the end.

Chapter 15. Exhortation to confess Christ by silence as well as speech

It is better for a man to be silent and be [a Christian], than to talk and not to be one. It is good to teach, if he who speaks also acts. There is then one Teacher, who spoke and it was done; while even those things which He did in silence are worthy of the Father. He who possesses the word of Jesus, is truly able to hear even His very silence, that he may be perfect, and may both act as he speaks, and be recognised by his silence. There is nothing which is hid from God, but our very secrets are near to Him. Let us therefore do all things as those who have Him dwelling in us, that we may be His temples, 1 Corinthians 6:19 and He may be in us as our God, which indeed He is, and will manifest Himself before our faces. Wherefore we justly love Him.

The very next chapters speak of false teachers, defined as people who destroy families, and of false doctrine.

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Hans-Georg Lundahl

Actually, this is not totally off.

Here is the source:

The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0104.htm