How Sly is the Pope?

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JB

Ah, yeah, the pope would never lie, right?

HGL

JB, Look, the level of fakes necessary to make Church Father after Church Father seem Catholic, including very early ones, is a level of fraud incompatible with trusting the New Testament either.

HGL

JB, Plus, suppose a Protestant were given a faked catechism to lure him in, how would that avoid risking those already Catholic getting a "more Protestant" doctrine by reading that catechism?

If I when converting was told "we don't adore Mary, but we venerate Her, more than other Saints" in a catechism, where would the Popes go to, to make those already Catholic actually adore Her? Especially as, there is a sect in Poland, where Catholics were in fact trying to make Her a fourth person of the Trinity or Incarnation of the Holy Ghost (forgot which) and who were condemned for that.

Very sly way to hide adoring Mary, but less sly when coming to make Catholics adore Her - if that had been the goal.

JB

HGL, I hate all deception, no matter where it may be found. Check out this fraud:

HGL

I think making a fake meme or faking a "would" is fairly easy.

Where exactly do YOU think Gilbert Joseph was taken in by lies about what Catholic teaching is, pronouned by Popes?

How easy would THAT fake have really been?